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Improvementpixpet egg in usershop (or TRADES) (39 Posts and 483 Views)
Topic Tags: pixpet, egg, usershop, user shop, sales, selling, trades, trading, flatsale, flat sale
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Apr 24th, 2019 - 4:45 PM
Nr. 1 #17731 10
I wish there was a way to put an egg or two up for sale in your usershop. sometimes you just want a flatsale instead of an auction, you know? this would have to be a limited feature, I just think it could add a bit of fun.

Quote by: @peabuns
yeah, that's what I was thinking sort of when suggesting a trade system just for eggs

there doesn't have to be an option to include pixcoins, just eggs, and limit or not I'm sure there would still be plenty of people who prefer auctions bc there's no need to have an egg in return to give, esp if you don't have anything you think is worth trading to the other person for an egg you really want. (Like let's say you really want a rare pixpet like noo-long or pydeer, but don't have an egg of equal value to give to someone bc of their rarity? auctioning seems like the easier option)

so basically what i'm saying is, like how some people would find trading easier, there'd still be a decent amount, I think, who would see auctioning easier. It just depends on what you're looking for, but there could be limits to how many trades you have in a day (I feel like months would be a little too much? maybe 2 trades a day?)
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Apr 24th, 2019 - 10:10 PM
Nr. 2 #17796 6
Just a way to sell eggs in general would be great. On the buying side, being able to just...hand money over and get what you need instead of having to go through a bid war all the time sounds awesome and less frustrating. Or at least maybe a trading system just for eggs, if not that?
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Apr 25th, 2019 - 12:22 AM
Nr. 3 #17805 1
While it would be nice, Komodo has expressed wanting auctions to be a huge part of the game. Apparently it took a massive movement to get usershops in general, so I doubt I'll see this anytime soon.
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Apr 25th, 2019 - 9:49 AM
Nr. 4 #17839 2
YES! I have an egg, and the owner seems amenable to selling it, but we don't have a way to exchange it!

Honestly, a limited version would be nice, if he want to keep the auctions as a main thing. Like one trade a month? Or every few months? That way it is not a viable method of selling eggs, but is viable for very specific circumstances.

And honestly the usershops are still not the main method of acquisition, so I doubt this would be much different, especially if it is limited in some manner.
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Apr 25th, 2019 - 4:25 PM
Nr. 5 #17874 2
yeah, that's what I was thinking sort of when suggesting a trade system just for eggs

there doesn't have to be an option to include pixcoins, just eggs, and limit or not I'm sure there would still be plenty of people who prefer auctions bc there's no need to have an egg in return to give, esp if you don't have anything you think is worth trading to the other person for an egg you really want. (Like let's say you really want a rare pixpet like noo-long or pydeer, but don't have an egg of equal value to give to someone bc of their rarity? auctioning seems like the easier option)

so basically what i'm saying is, like how some people would find trading easier, there'd still be a decent amount, I think, who would see auctioning easier. It just depends on what you're looking for, but there could be limits to how many trades you have in a day (I feel like months would be a little too much? maybe 2 trades a day?)
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Apr 25th, 2019 - 5:19 PM
Nr. 6 #17878 1
Quote by: @peabuns
It just depends on what you're looking for, but there could be limits to how many trades you have in a day (I feel like months would be a little too much? maybe 2 trades a day?)

Or one trade a week or something. Anything would be better than auctions only to be honest. Do you know how many times me and my friend have wanted to give each other eggs and not been able to?
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Apr 25th, 2019 - 7:23 PM
Nr. 7 #17899
I personally think days with a certain number of trades is better than weeks and months. If you do go by weeks, once a week seems too little and I feel like that's just trading one extreme possibility for another. (Either it's not balanced enough that auctions could become useless, or the cooldown is too long and/or the number of trades is too small between them that people won't even bother or potentially forget the feature is even there.)

Of course, I'm not an expert on this sorta stuff so I could be missing a bigger picture and not considering something.
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Apr 27th, 2019 - 10:02 AM
Nr. 8 #18060
The reason I said moths is because it has been mentioned that Komodo wants auctions to be a prominent or main feature of the game. And I think weekly might work and keep that, but daily would risk auctions not being used as prominently. So I was trying to find a suggestion that they (he?) would be amenable to, since he makes decisions and does the coding from what I understand. (Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.)

I feel pushing what we might like (unlimited ability in this feature), makes it less likely to be considered or worked on, so I was looking for a middle ground which might make it more viable to serve more of our purpose than the current non-existing system. And I am fairly certain once know about it, people won't forget this feature, we need it now, so I am guessing people will use it for when auctions won't work.

Eh, all this is theory. But I really DO want some form of ability to trade eggs player to player, be it by sale or otherwise. And I would like it sooner than later, so I am throwing ideas out there to try and help that.
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Apr 27th, 2019 - 4:04 PM
Nr. 9 #18108
@Vich

Well yeah, of course! I'm trying to think of a decent middle ground too for the same reason since I don't wanna take away the auctions being a main thing if that's what Komodo wants. I guess I'm just concerned about limits being more strict than they necessarily have to be...? I'm not an expert on these things though as I said before. I don't design games for a living or anything, so I could be wrong as well. It's hard to know how something might go until it actually (if it ever) happens.

So sorry if I sounded like you weren't trying to help? We're all here in suggestions because I'm assuming we all want to help somehow, if I sounded too pushy as well, then sorry about that.
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Apr 28th, 2019 - 1:44 AM
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@peabuns

Lol, no worries, I actually was wondering if I had sounded too harsh after writing my bit. I certainly didn't think you said I wasn't also trying to also find a good way forward.

I also am not a developer or coder, fair warning. Just a user. And yeah, we won't know unless it is implemented. I think months would work for me, but weeks would be better. But I also don't live on the site, so people who spend more time here would certainly want more access to the feature but how to shift it from nonexistent to supplement is tricky. If it's every few days, we'll, I guess that might take away from the auction thing. But the other side is that you have to have two sides agreeing to buy/sell/trade the egg, and I don't think that will be as common as it seems.

Trying to figure out as much as possible here. Would REALLY love for this to be a thing. Are we allowed to tag the devs/admin? Or is it just assumed they know because it is on this part of the forums? Sorry, figured I would ask the crowd.
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Apr 28th, 2019 - 6:41 PM
Nr. 11 #18222 2
I like this idea because to be honest, restricting eggs/items to auctions is just another thing that really slows down the gameplay, which is already at rather a crawl.
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Apr 28th, 2019 - 7:12 PM
Nr. 12 #18225
Quote by: @Amu
I like this idea because to be honest, restricting eggs/items to auctions is just another thing that really slows down the gameplay, which is already at rather a crawl.


Agreed. I know it's the main thing, but it'll be nice. -^-
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Apr 28th, 2019 - 10:35 PM
Nr. 13 #18244
Well, here's hoping we can get enough support for it?
I feel like that is the only way this will become an add on to all the coding improvements they are doing now.

(Is Komodo the only coder? Or is there a dev. Team? I say "they" but I honestly have no idea, and that affects how fast updates can really be expected. But updates seem to be coming pretty fast?)
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Apr 30th, 2019 - 10:47 AM
Nr. 14 #18363
Quote by: @Vich
(Is Komodo the only coder? Or is there a dev. Team? I say "they" but I honestly have no idea, and that affects how fast updates can really be expected. But updates seem to be coming pretty fast?)

Komodo does all the coding, and all the Pixpet artwork as far as I am aware. It’s the reason that larger projects that require a lot of coding don’t come too often. Smaller updates though do come regularly, he’s doing a good job at keeping us happy players

Item artwork is shared between all the site artists.
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Apr 30th, 2019 - 9:03 PM
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Quote by: @/GreySkyMorning
Quote by: @peabuns
It just depends on what you're looking for, but there could be limits to how many trades you have in a day (I feel like months would be a little too much? maybe 2 trades a day?)

Or one trade a week or something. Anything would be better than auctions only to be honest. Do you know how many times me and my friend have wanted to give each other eggs and not been able to?


this would be better than my original suggestion.
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May 1st, 2019 - 7:29 AM
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Ugh, just lost the whole dang thing!
Imma rewrite it later, I am SO ticked off! (Lost a whole bunch of text, and it won't come back.)
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May 1st, 2019 - 10:29 AM
Nr. 17 #18464
well then i would like the original more.
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May 1st, 2019 - 11:27 PM
Nr. 18 #18518 1
Ok, take 2!

@Wayvern Ah, thanks! Yeah, that makes sense. Most of the coded things have recently been additions which were either tweaks to existing structure, or additions which already had code written, but are getting new topics to add to existing framework/systems, such as new items and pixpets.

So, the question becomes this: can we ask for this in a way which makes it easier to add to the existing framework/system, and does not require an undue amount of extra work, such as adjusting an existing system, or adding a part similar to an existing system? And still respect Komodo's (based on an earlier comment) desire to keep auctions predominant in the game?

To me that starts looking like the usershop version again. It could be a separate shop, or just one of the spaces in our existing shops, but with a limit of one egg posted per day or week, or whathave you. The time limits exist in game already, and infact, they exit on the shops themselves, because we cannot buy more than three items from one person in an certain time. I don't know how easy it is to turn that around, but if a player cannot sell more than one egg in a certain time, that provides the limit factor.

To me this seems like it fits in the framework we have, and is not asking for the addition of a new, never on the site before thing, but as I have said, I am not a coder. The trade version becomes two people posting an egg for 1PC, and trading that way. In the usershops, only those who know the egg is up, or are looking at you page, will see it. This means that with the increasing number of players, it will not be able to be a large manner of acquisition, unless someone is hunting it down. And the limit for six interactions per user/day could be applied here to give one egg purchase per user/day(s), which means narrowing down how many eggs one can obtain in this manner.

@peabuns timelines! I know you and I have different wants for this, so I will ask, what is the optimum amount of trades per time you would want, and what is the longest amount of time you would still be wanting to work with? For me, I would want at least 1 egg trade/sale per 3months, and would consider 1trade per week optimal. I know you are much shorter in timeframe, so what is your scale?

And if people could give feedback or suggestions that would be great! I am throwing ideas at the wall here, but if we have a respectful idea or adjustment to ask for, I feel like that would not be such a bad thing. Might even help our case. PLEASE correct me if you think I am in error!

This is a community site, which successfully promotes interactions around the eggs, pets, messages, art, and forums. The pet interactions promote helping each other, and we have many ways to communicate and build that community. But despite the ability to give trade and sell all items available on site, the only way to exchange eggs to friends or other individuals met here is to put them up on auction for the whole site, which does not in any way guarantee that your preferred individual will get it, just the individual willing to pay the most, at the time the auction closes. That seems... Odd to me.
I understand that we are one group, asking for a thing while many are likely doing the same, but I would like to request that this feature or one like it be strongly considered on the list for upcoming updates. (Ok, getting off my soapbox now... Ooops?)

And with that, I think most of what I had written last time is here, if longer, and more poorly worded. My apologies for the length, and I welcome constructive criticism to the whole post here. Please help me improve any of it!
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May 11th, 2019 - 3:00 PM
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Wow, just swung by, and I think I wrote too much last time. XD
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Jul 25th, 2019 - 8:39 PM
Nr. 20 #24974
Oh man I started a few days ago and I was surprised that there was no way to trade, gift or flat sell eggs AT ALL. It's a real disappointment, because me and my partner joined at the same time- she has a spare indigoat egg and I have a spare sunobra egg: We were like 'oh hey let's trade them' and NOPE, trades are for items only.

It feels really sad to only have the choice to place an egg up on a time consuming auction to be bought by strangers, or to 'give the egg back to the server' for some coins. It'd make the eggs feel more like actual creature eggs with some kind of emotional value to be able to hand them over to friends and loved ones to raise.
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