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I suppose death is inevitable, anyways. (33 Posts and 387 Views) (Closed)
Topic Tags: RIP Pixpet we will miss you, goodbye old friend
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Nov 28th, 2021 - 11:35 PM
Nr. 1 #42491 4
Let's face it:
Pixpet is dying.



Back in 2019, when I was new, the Adventure was barely a shadow of a whisper, and Josie was a Feliphene, Pixpet was alive and well. Always something new around the corner, always a new Pixpet egg to find on a hoard, always a new feature added to the game. But now? New Pixpet releases are few and far between, and the house decorator is STILL locked behind a paywall.
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 1:24 AM
Nr. 2 #42493 3
uhhh... ok so I wasn't pinged, but I agree 99.99% percent of what Pudding2019 is saying. Pixpet has not released huge updates since the beginning of Adventure, almost 2 months ago. I do not think Pixpet will be like Dragonadopters yet... many are still hyped about Adventure, along with other mini updates. But after a bit, I do think that it'll follow the dreadful path that Dragonadopters has taken.


(not only that, they should add more minigames in the arcade, such as memory or card games with PC prizes.)
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 1:54 AM
Nr. 3 #42500 2
Yeah, it seem like it's bound to happen some day with less than 30 people online each days nowadays as opposed to like 100 people online back then
Then again, people don't stay too long back then since there was nothing much to do except hoarding and Sunobra Chase
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 1:59 AM
Nr. 4 #42501 2
exactly :(
they really, really, REALLY should add more arcade games. some suggestions are memory and card games if any mod looks at this...

most people are online only to water and return interactions; after that, they're off. it's sad to see how Pixpet is slowing treading on the same path of Dragonadopters...
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 2:50 AM
Nr. 5 #42513 6
there are plenty of pet games that have very small dedicated userbases out there and have been running for many years, though the unfortunate truth about those is that they are often passion projects and not for profit besides maybe from optional ads/patreon. And as it stands, Komodo iirc does not currently have the time to work on the site full-time which in turn results in less frequent updates and new stuff being added.

the adventure was a great release but I do agree that for the game to stay more relevant it needs a bit of a better... "loop"? More reasons to come back and keep playing. But a lot of the features that would be amazing additions (crafting, pet accessories, more arcade games, more stuff to do with PPT, more reasons to support patreon) would take a long time to develop (probably) and afaik Komodo works on the game code alone for the most part sooo yeah things are slow.

And other mods being busy too such as Wayvern bringing monthly forum events to a halt has not exactly helped bring more user engagement. So right now all we got are uhh... 3 site events throughout the year. We really could use a whole lot more of those :0 but mods being volunteers and all, if they haven't got the time then nothing much can be done...

but yeah my rambling aside, while I don't think Pixpet will outright die, I very much agree that there isn't much hope for the numbers going up if new things are few and far between. But like with such a small team and budget, it's inevitably going to take a while to make progress. I do hope things will pick back up soon though since I love the community here, and drawing lil pixels for the game :'0
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 4:09 AM
Nr. 6 #42515 2
Quote by: @Lorienee
the adventure was a great release but I do agree that for the game to stay more relevant it needs a bit of a better... "loop"? More reasons to come back and keep playing.

I 100% agree. Even I get bored with the actual game (the main reason I'm still active here is to use the forums).

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And other mods being busy too such as Wayvern bringing monthly forum events to a halt has not exactly helped bring more user engagement. So right now all we got are uhh... 3 site events throughout the year. We really could use a whole lot more of those :0 but mods being volunteers and all, if they haven't got the time then nothing much can be done...

We definitely could. The only open recurring event I've seen is BK's 1000 PC scavenger hunt. Which is really sad, if you think about it.
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 4:11 PM
Nr. 7 #42526 4
you know... since we’re hoping that Pixpet stays alive, why not we take it into our own hands and host some events?
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 4:12 PM
Nr. 8 #42527 3
i’m willing to put in some prizes if we all agree to do this :>
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 6:33 PM
Nr. 9 #42530 3
@HelenOfTroy
Not a bad idea! Maybe we could host some kind of art contest?
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 9:43 PM
Nr. 10 #42538 1
Not only that, maybe even poetry/talent shows/other contests (since not everyone is good at one thing...)

the prizes can contain evobars/PC/pumpkins/etc.

I can definitely say I'm not artistic; the different choices allow people to have different options.

the only problem is how we would get this out to the human Pixpet player world. some people are not in the Discord OS
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 9:44 PM
Nr. 11 #42539 1
...or we could get Komodo to announce this, right??
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Nov 29th, 2021 - 10:40 PM
Nr. 12 #42540 9
@Pudding2019

I understand how frustrating it can be to see something you enjoy stagnate. And like I say to everyone, I'm glad when players voice their concerns rather than just leaving without saying a word. It shows that you care about the game and want to see it succeed.

I've been kind of stalling on my reply to this because I can't find much to say (future me: hold my beer) that Lorie hasn't already said. The reality is that Pixpet has just one coder and this isn't his only job. When you support indie game devs, patience and understanding are basic survival skills. However, what I've learned about Komodo over the past 3 years is that he does deliver on his promises eventually, even if it takes a while. Some may point to the shutdown of DrA as disproving my point, but even that game is being remade now. Granted, Komodo's not the one remaking it, but he oversees the project.

To address the statement "Pixpet is dying," I think there are some points that are debatable and one that's not. If we mean that Pixpet isn't as financially successful as we'd like it to be, then I can't disagree. I think PPT in particular needs more uses in order to be worth buying, and I've been meaning to make some suggestions in that regard, but that's for another thread. I also agree with Lorie that Pixpet's replayability is low. The adventure is intended to address that, but it's still a young feature that needs time to grow. Thankfully it has a team of writers behind it, so I imagine new content isn't far away.

I feel that other points are subjective. I like the size and activity level of Pixpet's community because it feels more personal and manageable. You can really get to know other players here. It's also important to note that the level of social activity is always going to be less than the level of game activity. There are more active users than what we're seeing, but not all of them want to hang out, so to speak.

Quote by: @Pudding2019

Even slower because sadly, he seems to be spending his time playing forum games and browsing the gallery.

Hmm, I can sorta see why you'd say this, but I don't think it's fair to imply that Komodo's interactions with the community are an irresponsible use of his free time. He only does this occasionally and his comments tend to be brief, so we know he's not spending hours socializing with players. And frankly I'd be sad if he stopped doing this, because then the site would really feel abandoned.

TL;DR Pixpet may not be doing well financially but I feel that only Komodo can decide when it's dead. I stick around because Pixpet feels like home to me, I like helping the community, and I believe in Komodo based on past experiences.

PS Takkju is the one you'll want to ask if you'd like to host an event! I'm not sure if he'd let regular players host events, but it doesn't hurt to ask. And I like the idea.
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 12:39 AM
Nr. 13 #42543 3
BK always putting things into words so much better than I could every hope to haha
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 1:03 AM
Nr. 14 #42544 8
I know I wasn't tagged but I've been on a number of petsites over the years and have seen some pretty solid ones and some pretty bad ones.

As it is right now, the main flaw of Pixpet is that there's not much active stuff to do on site. A few okay games, but aside from Adventure, most of it is hoarding. However, I don't entirely see this as a bad thing, necessarily. I find this a really good passive sort of pet-site, where I check in each day to do my interactions, keep an eye on my plants, send out on hoards, etc. Adventure could definitely help keep a more "active" userbase, but I can't say much on it as I haven't been able to do much of it due to it needing to be a pet in your house, but I've already made a suggestion regarding that.

I agree that what the site really needs is a good use for tickets so that users have a good reason to buy them. The storage boxes are great for that, but otherwise, not much. I feel like making there be a separate currency for the superpotions was a small mistake, as some of those are easily things that could have been relegated to tickets, espeecially since they're all about skipping wait times. I'd remove Superpixcoins entirely and make some of the potions buyable for pixcoins and some buyable with tickets. It'd remove an unecessary step and currency as well since superpixcoins are literally only for those super potions and you just buy them with regular currency anyway.

I got off on a tangent though. Really I guess my point is that it's in how you frame it. If you're wanting pixpets to be a site with an active userbase, then yea, it's failing in that regard. But if you're chill with a site where most of the gameplay is passive and you can chat on the forums if/when you want, then it's pretty solid and I've been really enjoying it in that respect.

(I also feel like throwing shade at Komodo for participating on his own site is a little... unnecessary and kinda rude. Like I get where you're coming from but still.)
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 2:10 AM
Nr. 15 #42548 3
All sites see fluctuations in activity. When you get to the months with more holidays you tend to see more activity as well as around updates. The ones that stick around regardless of the big updates are the ones on the site for the forums or the ones doing dailies. For me I will post on a topic if interested but my main focus is run a few activities on the like profiting off the pixpet egg auctions, restocking pumpkins to sell and just collecting pixcoins seeing if I can make it over a million pixcoins :3 My main focus on sites is more around the battling activities which is why you will see me way more activate of furvilla due to the warrior career and of the villagers and to a lesser extend the villager customization.

So it would take a lot for pixpets as a site to fully die out, once you lose the players that are on daily doing their daily task is when the site would be at its send.
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 2:33 AM
Nr. 16 #42549 1
Yeah, most players are on only to water plants/pumpkins, then return interactions. After that, they are either checking their Pixpets if they're returned from hoards or just offline. Hosting events could help...
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 8:55 AM
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As a developer myself, there isn't enough people subscribing to the Patreon for Komodo to make this a full-time job, or afford advertising space. I know Adventure has drawn in a lot of newer players actually, myself and a lot of my friends included, a couple of us who sub to the Patreon. If this had a team of a few developers or if Komodo was willing to have someone develop with him, perhaps the game would be adding new content at a faster pace and able to release things like the house decorator quicker.

I really resonate with @BK47 's reply. Additionally, I don't like the painting Komodo as being lazy for participating in forum games.. Without him the site wouldn't be around, I think he should be allowed to actually interact with the community. Starting with "only these people actually interact on the forums" and then getting mad that the creator is playing forum games seems.. a bit contradictory? My only disagreement with BK47 is I would really like a bigger community, actually. I would love to see more constant updates and a big enough community for item commissions to happen, I like small communities but this is too small for a game that depends on its' userbase for new decorations.

I really like @TheSilverSword 's idea regarding removing SuperPixcoins. I almost had someone I recommended the game to quit during the tutorial because they thought it meant you had to use some premium currency for speed-up potions. It could easily be simplified, imo.

For everyone in this thread who doesn't want the game to die, go sub to the Patreon. Give the developer more time to work on the game. There's like even a $3 option if you really can't afford more. Go post your cute houses on FB and Twitter and your socials, tell your friends about it. That's really the best way we can get something like this to grow, and I really hope the referral system is brought back for this reason.

As for the "no updates in two months since Adventure was released" thing.. It was released on October 1st. Which means Komodo was working on the Halloween event right up until it was Halloween, which even included an in-game event and cute new decorations and the cutest pixpet yet (sorry techtagon)! We've also had a new pixpet evolution, Draconeer, and it's been the holidays which I'm sure Komodo deserves time to celebrate as well. In my opinion, expecting huge content updates every month or two is a little fast for a pet site game and I wouldn't get your hopes up for something like that unless the site has a whole ass dev team working on it full time.
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Nov 30th, 2021 - 2:26 PM
Nr. 18 #42557 1
That's the problem... some of us are not over 18, and cannot get Patreon. As much as I would love to support Komodo on the advancement of Pixpet, I sadly cannot. The best I can do is post it all over my social media platforms AND put the link of Pixpet in my signatures in Gmail/Discord/etc. Removing the SPC is good, ONLY if there is a way to buy potions with PC then. Without potions, (some of us aren't very patient), I'd get bored waiting for my Pixpets to return from hoards/eggs hatching.
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Dec 1st, 2021 - 12:40 AM
Nr. 19 #42570 3
Obviously if you can't support the patreon for one reason or another, no one's gonna shame anyone for that. That'd be ridiculous.

Quote by: @HelenOfTroy
Removing the SPC is good, ONLY if there is a way to buy potions with PC then. Without potions, (some of us aren't very patient), I'd get bored waiting for my Pixpets to return from hoards/eggs hatching.


Now see, as a fellow impatient person, I highly disagree with this. The timers are built into the game, and if you don't like it, then there's not much for it. Being able to skip timers should definitely be a premium, though not an expensive one. Keep Rename/Gender/Cook potions in coins for sure, MAYBE recover potions stay coins due to simply being the cooldown and not something that earns rewards in and of itself, but Hoard Return and Hatch potions should definitely be Tickets were this to change. Patience is a virtue, and the hoard system is very much built to be passive over simply spamming potions to return and send pets out for instant rewards. (I should probably plop this whole concept in suggestions lol, it was originally just a tangent I didn't mean to get on)

I do agree that this site could use a bigger playerbase, if only for the sake of the market. Plants can be an issue for how slow they grow, how you can't grow everything you need even in the largest house without switching things out. These wouldn't be a problem if plant products were reliable to find on the market, but as it is now, it can be very hit or miss depending on what you're looking for, and I often feel the prices are a bit high due to simple lack of supply. Various items can also be hard to determine the value of when there's none of it or similar on the market. Is it really valuable and just hard to find? Or is it something not being sold because no one really wants it? But that's my two cents.

As for updates, I don't really feel like those are necessary to be some big constant thing, especially on a site built the way PixPets is. If you have constant updates adding things to the game, players will quickly get behind unless they're really on the ball, and that can lead to frustration. Why bother trying to collect all the pets if the goalpost is constantly being moved, or try for specific decorations when the pool of possible grabs is being diluted frequently? For a game where gameplay is passive and relatively slow, I think it makes a decent bit of sense for big updates that add pets and items to be a little more sparse than you would find on other pet sites where gameplay is far more fast-paced.
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Dec 1st, 2021 - 12:55 AM
Nr. 20 #42571 3
@TheSilverSword

I think I disagree really heavily regarding potion monetization. The first thing my friend said to me when I introduced them to the game was "Does this game force you to pay money to speed things up?" and when I said no, they said "Oh thank God, I thought this was going to be like one of those money grabby mobile games. I would've quit in the tutorial haha."

There are so many cooler monetization options that could be just as incentivizing if not more so, without making a pay-to-win feature and forcing people who can't pay for tickets to have to wait.. literally a day to just swap out to a different pixpet if they want to. I think a ticket decoration catalogue or the ability to list things for tickets in the auction house would help way more than monetizing too aggressively on speed-up potions.
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